Originally Posted by fierce_gt
i vaguely recall a discussion like this occurring years ago. when almost exactly the same way
guy A: plasma's are less reliable
guy B: more customer returns/repairs on lcd's
guy A: more lcd's sold
guy B: still doesn't make them more reliable...
then guy C comes in, who worked in a repair shop or claims center or something that at the time at least made me respect his comment. and he claimed that the % difference btw the two was pretty much insignificant. like 1-2%, and it wasn't even consistent across manufacturers. so if samsung had 2% higher failure rate on plasma's, LG had 1% higher on lcd's, and panny was 2% higher on lcd's, and the manufacturers who only produce lcd were mostly with 2% plus or minus as well.
i don't AT ALL remember the numbers, so i could be off. but i remember after reading it thinking that it was pointless to worry either way. there really wasn't any reason to think plasma or lcd were less reliable, any more than it's fair to think sony is more reliable than panasonic(or whatever two brands you want to pick). people always get that feeling, if they buy an LG and it dies, then lg is unreliable in their opinion. but when sampling a larger number of displays, the difference between the best and worst is really really small.
Originally Posted by Test Ickles
Very good point. I agree neither technology is more prevalent to failure than the other. Both have relatively trouble free models and models that have a high failure rate for a common reason. I just googled "Panasonic TC-65vt60 issues problems failure" and I barely got a page worth. Then I did "Samsung F8500 issues problems failure" and I got several pages. Even has it's own issue thread on AVS Forum. The Panasonic TC-65VT60 and 65ZT60 are the best Plasma's ever made and so far they have been remarkably trouble free.
I will quote both of these posts since they have things in common to comment on
Without knowing how many were sold vs other brands and this could apply to Plasma vs LCD or Samsung plasma vs other brands
How do you know what is less or more reliable if you don't have the sales figures and can make a percentage of failure derived from that?
Just because something has its own thread how do you know it actually had a higher failure rate...without having the total sales number
I would suspect
they sold a lot more Samsung F8500's than VT or ZTs...and I assume
this because it was available for a lot longer period of time
As I mentioned earlier the LCDs have been more reliable than the plasmas in my ownership
...and I have owned Panasonic and Samsung plasmas. I still own a few actually that are not being used right now.. Panasonic ST50..ST60.. Samsung E8000...and I recently sold the F8500 and replaced it with a Samsung KS9800
But getting back to the point of this thread.
I see these guys trying to sell used plasmas and many I see are unrealistic as I am sure they get the myriad of low ball offers I did on a regular basis when I was trying to sell the F8500
The fact that you cant ship the thing puts another coffin nail in opening up the field of buyers
The 1-2 punch is the rapid fall in price of OLED. I have seen 65" 4K OLED's for 2K and imagine if the prices keep falling which I assume they will
I recall the last better plasma sold for more( in many cases a lot more) than $2K
I certainly paid more than $2K for my 64F8500 and I got a great since I got in on the Conn's closeout deal
Originally Posted by DRC72
My plasma panel has outlasted a few CRTs that I’ve owned in years past. I’ve had one CRT die in the first year that I’ve owned it, and another within three years.
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I cant speak personally for a HD CRT as I never owned one
I do have a buddy that has a Samsung HD CRT...he is not using it but I think it still works